Sunday, January 4, 2009

A Point of View

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000 ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2005 - Mohamed El Baradei
2006 - Muhamed Yunus
Economics: (zero)
Physics
1979 - Abdus Salam
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 10 TEN
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The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN MILLION Or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle S Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 - Eli e Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
198 9 - H arold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
TOTAL: 129,ONE HUNDRED & TWENTY NINE ! (perhaps an incomplete list)
The Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of non Muslims!

The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing people.The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all: 'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu

Ashwin Modi
Advocate High Court

18 comments:

A. I. said...

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu


Ahh!

CAT said...

Yeah does'nt one wish they paid more heed to the peaceful voice of reason!

But perhaps humans are bound by nature to be aggressive and soon they will self destruct!!

white_angel said...

very interesting post, and the last line befittingly sums it up...
but I don't think humans are naturally aggressive, rather they are highly territorial like most other animals and tend to resort to violence when encroached by other breed... makes sense right.. :)

CAT said...

Aggressiveness is the superset of territorial! Having said that,I stand corrected... there is enough research that points that aggression in humans "though exists on a macro level,it is not universal but rather culturally specific and culturally derived"

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=I9xIfeijGhMC&dq=What+Causes+
War%3F+By+Greg+Cashman&printsec
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nSmiFBs7qq&sig=-fKAiussFY9H6A-AfHRnV9pmSZw&hl=en&sa=
X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA14,M1

Animesh said...

@CAT: Would you mind comparing the number of male versus female nobel prize winners? What does that tell us about the female 'race'?

Sadly, single points of data do not tell a complete story, as I hope my above example drove home.

I expected a better choice of text from you.

Regarding "if arabs put down their weapons", they did it -- and had elections. Given the people chose Hamas, which israel did not like, a blockade ensued. And when people realized that they could not import cows if they wanted to, they said f**k it and started launching rockets, a reaction I completely disagree with.

Noone talks about that? I wonder why.

I don't like what Hamas does, but I do not like the actions of Israel either.

And once again, please, for god's sake, do not simplify super-complicated issues by using single points of data. That way propaganda lies :-|.

CAT said...

Animesh u are reading too much in this simple "point of view" (which does not pretend to be an analysis of a convoluted protracted conflict). All the author wishes to convey is that Muslims/arabs/islamic countries should fixate on issues relating to developement,industry,education,health, alleviating poverty et al rather than alienating themselves in self inflicted ghettos ......it would be ample retribution and a slap on the face of islamophobes and their ilk. The Jews did it , why cant the the muslims do it.....they would cease to be the losers!

Since the cease fire in 2005, Hamas has been spending millions in dole to arm themselves.....could have put it to more constructive use!!!

And addressing mode for gender issues are a totally different ball game than those of race /color/religion...though all stem from prejudice and attempts at subjugation.

Anonymous said...

Who subjugated the Muslims in Muslim nations?

CAT said...

Anonymous.....am sure if you google appropriately, you will find answer to your question.

Anonymous said...

Women have been subjugated by men -very generally speaking ( thankfully this is changing). Who subjugated Muslims in Muslim lands so that they remain backward in their mentality and general position vis a vis the civilised. progressive world?

The answer to the second question unfortunately is an unpalatable one for the politically correct 'secularists' who believe religion is a personal matter even when we dicuss those who make it public.

CAT said...

1)DO NOT generalize by saying "they". It is not ALL Muslims in "Muslim" lands.

2)The tone of your response reveals that you must be cognizant of the who is responsible and why certain religious and societal bound regressive practices continue to exist.

3)Please refrain from making sweeping statement about "backward in their mentality and general position vis a vis the civilised. progressive world".We have enough evidence that degenerative , supressive mores have existed in the past and still exist in other communities. Ofcourse perhaps not as pervasive.

4)I am a rationalist foremost, any other tags that could be attached to me are of lesser consequence. There is no denying that reformation/reinterpretation of certain issues in Islam is sorely required.That motivation has to come from WITHIN the muslim community from their elite and as well as their masses. Verbal aggression by "outsiders" only fuels anxieties of persecution and pushes them further into their ghettos of "comfort" and status quo.

SO, while religion sure is and should be a personal matter and while we do discuss those who use it in the public domain,the point is OUR approach to discussing them is INCORRECT and should be directed more towards motivating changes rather than putting them on the defensive or the offensive.

Anonymous said...

Even when they launch offensives? I am sorry, but are you sure you see that as rational?

Anonymous said...

1)DO NOT generalize by saying "they". It is not ALL Muslims in "Muslim" lands.

2)Please refrain from making sweeping statement about "backward in their mentality and general position vis a vis the civilised. progressive world

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The Jews did it , why cant the the muslims do it.....they would cease to be the losers!

All the author wishes to convey is that Muslims/arabs/islamic countries should fixate on issues relating to developement,industry,education,health, alleviating poverty et al rather than alienating themselves in self inflicted ghettos

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CAT said...

And how would "you" want to react to "their offensives"?

The quoted statement only conveys that " they should attempt getting out of the persecution mode(self inflicted ghettos) and concentrate on developmental activity " and DOES NOT amount to labelling them ALL as backward in mentality et al

Anonymous said...

'Self inflicted' was exactly what I was getting at.

I'd react 'defensively'. But then, that is offensive too, to those who are easily offended. More egg shells to walk on.

Anonymous said...

We have enough evidence that degenerative , supressive mores have existed in the past and still exist in other communities. Ofcourse perhaps not as pervasive.

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Verbal aggression by "outsiders" only fuels anxieties of persecution and pushes them further into their ghettos of "comfort" and status quo.

Hmm. Doesn't quite go with the tone or content of the blog now, especially the Benjamin bit. Definitely on the aggressive border of assertive.

CAT said...

Yup, one has digressed from the original intent of the post thanks to your "who subjugated the muslims in muslim countries"
You have no one to hold responsible but yourself!! :-)

Anonymous said...

Blame? But I agree with your blog...the tone and contents!!!

I was reading the it again and notice how it lists things the Jews don't do as against things that Muslims do...like blowing up planes, etc. Very subtle. :))))

"et al rather than alienating themselves in self inflicted ghettos "

Self Inflicted ...came BEFORE my question of subjugation. I am merely agreeing with you...unless you see an argument there somewhere. I don't.

CAT said...

Anonymous,

I thought that the tone of the post was admonishingly motivational. And what I wished to convey through my subsequent comments is that any critique of the community should reflect that particular grain/pitch.

If as you pointed out, you were attempting to echo the very same sentiments,fantastic! Perhaps I misunderstood. :-)